Comments on: Renovating Jython: a strategic imperative http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/ Cool ideas revolving around computers and programming Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:04:25 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Hanif http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-4662 Hanif Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:17:32 +0000 http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-4662 Muharem - salam! long time! I agree with the comments about Java and support the idea of renovating Jython. Haven't tried Groovy, Scala, or even Ruby for that matter... BTW, I recommend this article by Larry Wall discussing aspects of scripting languages: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2007/12/06/soto-11.html Muharem – salam! long time!

I agree with the comments about Java and support the idea of renovating Jython. Haven’t tried Groovy, Scala, or even Ruby for that matter…

BTW, I recommend this article by Larry Wall discussing aspects of scripting languages:

http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2007/12/06/soto-11.html

]]> By: James http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1951 James Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:05:12 +0000 http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1951 Check out Scala (http://www.scala-lang.org/). It runs in the JVM (dynamically compiles to byte code) with many scripting language features while supporting type safety. Check out Scala (http://www.scala-lang.org/). It runs in the JVM (dynamically compiles to byte code) with many scripting language features while supporting type safety.

]]> By: Robert http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1950 Robert Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:07:51 +0000 http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1950 I would use Groovy for a couple of reasons but one is that Groovy is not "tied" to another language. JRuby is "tied" to Ruby and Jython is "tied" to Python. They are "tied" meaning there will always be an expectation that they are comparable to the "c" implementation language. While Groovy is free to implement itself. Plus Groovy is really cool. I would use Groovy for a couple of reasons but one is that Groovy is not “tied” to another language. JRuby is “tied” to Ruby and Jython is “tied” to Python. They are “tied” meaning there will always be an expectation that they are comparable to the “c” implementation language. While Groovy is free to implement itself. Plus Groovy is really cool.

]]> By: Sigurd http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1946 Sigurd Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:25:37 +0000 http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1946 ANTLR has a python target: http://www.antlr.org/wiki/display/ANTLR3/Code+Generation+Targets ANTLR has a python target: http://www.antlr.org/wiki/display/ANTLR3/Code+Generation+Targets

]]> By: muharem http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1938 muharem Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:56:07 +0000 http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1938 @newbie: you can learn Python (any variant of it) without having any knowledge of Java whatsoever. Being new to programming, Python is clearly the better language to start with. Groovy has quite a bit of a Java glue language character to it. Just my $.02 @newbie: you can learn Python (any variant of it) without having any knowledge of Java whatsoever.

Being new to programming, Python is clearly the better language to start with.

Groovy has quite a bit of a Java glue language character to it.

Just my $.02

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]]> By: newbie http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1934 newbie Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:54:09 +0000 http://muharem.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/renovating-jython-a-strategic-imperative/#comment-1934 newbie advice wanted. i'm new to programming and really have only used python. I'm green to python as well but i've managed to write a few tiny apps. i have read lots on Jython and Groovy and it appears Groovy is more up to date. Maybe i'm wrong. i've never used either one. But my question to you experts is , can I learn to use Groovy or Jython with no knowledge of Java? Could I buy a Groovy book and learn to be a productive programmer without knowing a single line of Java? Or do i have to become familiar with Java before I can use Jython or Groovy? If that's the case I'll never be able to use either. I just don't have the time or expertise to learn Java. newbie advice wanted.
i’m new to programming and really have only used python. I’m green to python as well but i’ve managed to write a few tiny apps. i have read lots on Jython and Groovy and it appears Groovy is more up to date. Maybe i’m wrong. i’ve never used either one.
But my question to you experts is , can I learn to use Groovy or Jython with no knowledge of Java?
Could I buy a Groovy book and learn to be a productive programmer without knowing a single line of Java?
Or do i have to become familiar with Java before I can use Jython or Groovy?
If that’s the case I’ll never be able to use either. I just don’t have the time or expertise to learn Java.

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